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各位大大好,小弟四中碩畢,剛退伍找第一份工作,最近有幸獲得以下職缺,想請教各位 前輩的意見: 公司 揚智 聯發科 南亞科 職位 CAD工程師 約聘工程師(synthesis) DRAM IC設計 地點 內科 新竹 泰山 薪水 (N+15K)*14~16 約(N+5K)*14 (未知) 住宿 家裡 租屋 租屋 考量: 揚智與聯發科的工作內容大致相同,聯發科教育訓練較完整,大公司使用的技術跟tool較 新,但約聘分紅福利都沒有,主管是說有轉正的例子但要看公司的名額,揚智則是電視盒 晶片競爭激烈近年來都虧損,公司未來發展較不看好,但是薪資福利較佳,家人的建議是 到MTK 未來發展較佳,如沒辦法轉正以聯發科的履歷也比較好跳其他公司(?) 但薪資差距 不小還要租屋,南亞科則是穩定,但所使用的技術有別於一般的IC設計,訓練期較長。 想請教版上大大如何做抉擇,謝謝各位! -- ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc), 來自: 59.115.42.42 ※ 文章網址: https://www.ptt.cc/bbs/Tech_Job/M.1541744424.A.269.html
yue831023: n=? 11/09 14:30
Iamjkc: 不要約聘.... 11/09 14:33
owen5566: 純噓約聘 11/09 14:42
owen5566: 轉正就是大餅,慢慢等吧 約聘仔 11/09 14:43
wake7078: 聯發科約聘轉正職 要多久? 11/09 14:43
alaskaman: 要砍人先從約聘砍 11/09 14:46
Armuu: 約聘砍人超EZ 直接不續聘完全不虧 11/09 15:05
Iamjkc: 我之前在當勞方代表收過申訴 七年沒轉正 我只能欽佩他 11/09 15:05
Iamjkc: 還能不離職XD 11/09 15:05
kobesoul5566: 少子化效應。學歷都很好。改天非台大都約聘 11/09 15:50
lp123gbaj: 牙科不錯啦,只是不知道dram能撐多久 11/09 16:03
wan8088: N45吧啊 11/09 16:36
bluesapphire: 不要約聘...不要想不開 Orz 11/09 16:41
hightech: 不懂,mtk的ic gate count應該很大很複雜,synthsis有這 11/09 18:25
hightech: 樣單純到找約聘的做啊? 11/09 18:25
yytseng: 約聘就是沒缺,黑的部門不敢要人,期待黑的部門可以轉正? 11/09 18:57
yytseng: 刪除法我建議你選1 11/09 18:58
apolloapollo: 約聘就是打雜 11/09 20:10
stevenshih: N多少啦 不要上來問一直n 11/09 22:51
stevenshih: 政府都禁止企業面議了你還一直n 11/09 22:51
ken1325: 我看過外商約聘的一兩年轉正,本土的你慢慢等吧..... 11/09 23:09
ljmk1246: 南亞科 11/10 00:14
Linares: 不要約聘 11/10 02:17
yustonejay: 從揚智到南亞科路過推 11/10 08:18
fumini: 約聘先砍掉啊。只會拿轉正畫大餅給你吃,就是讓你每年都有 11/10 12:07
fumini: 期待,你才不會走 11/10 12:07
fumini: 最討厭那種,會說去大公司履歷較好看,並不會有人因為你去 11/10 12:09
fumini: 大公司而錄取你,只是有加分而已,最後還是看你肚子裡面有 11/10 12:09
fumini: 沒有墨水 11/10 12:09
micky64: 約聘兩年還沒轉正的血汗例子在此哈哈 11/21 01:20
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